If one of them starts to implement CMYK we are talking. And this is just a matter of time. I work with Photoshop since version 3, so I go a long way back with this program. It has always been a fabulous piece of software, but Adobe is taking the Mickey with it's customers for some time now. I have come to the point that I probably will buy an alternative like Pixelmator and start learning to work with it, so that as soon as these programmers are getting smart and add CMYK, I'll take the jump.
Don't forget I have always been a loyal paying customer supporting Adobe. Think about it, all these pre-historic filters in Photoshop with their tiny thumbnail sized windows. C'mon Adobe, what's the matter with you? I agree that once someone does release a just a capable, just as stable, just as well designed alternative to PS Adobe will be in trouble. I have a feeling more than a few customers are just waiting for a viable alternative like you are so they can tell Adobe to screw off.
Yeah, sure. Others were getting "close" about 15 years ago too. Mostly forgotten by now. A joke really. Truth is that , that none of them offers features the Photoshop has. While agree that an alternative to PS is probably years off if it ever comes, the issue is not about affordability. It is about adobe exploiting their monopoly in order to take advantage of their costumers. Plus supporting subscription based software is an extremely bad idea.
If the message that people will put up with it gets across, ALL software will end up being subscription based. Image your entire music or software collection is gone because you couldn't keep up with all the payments. Imagine your computer is a brick because you forgot to pay the monthly bill for the O.
This is the future unless we refuse to pay for subscription based software NOW while we still have time. I think there ARE ways to live without Adobe, and their money grabbing policies. There may be some folks that think they can't live without Adobe, but, I'm not one of them! I'll modify what I do I've been with them since PS 4. Personally, I think Adobe better FIRE all those that came up with this policy change, and publicly fall on it's sword.
Bank of America and Chase banks thought they could abuse their customers at will. They thought they were to big to be swayed by public sentiment The whole reason adobe switched the upgrade scheme was to force people to upgrade every time a new version came out.
Too many people from adobes point of view were skipping versions and only upgrading every other or sometimes every third new version. Rather than makeing the next version seem like a good value for the money and not just an over priced incremental upgrade, adobe decided to basically tell it's customers, "upgrade every time or else.
This is why so many had such sour grapes about it. It was clear it was just an underhanded money grab. You could update your 3G non-S to the new OS And guess what? I knew a few people that "had to" upgraded to the iPhone 4 because of that.
Funny how Apple didn't get a bunch of flack over that. It was way too choppy with Premiere CS4. Apple refused to allow Adobe Flash on any of its portable devices because Flash was slow and a resource hog.
Those problems with iOS 4 you mention have long ago been solved with updates and we're now on iOS 5. You have to 'upgrade' to a new version when one comes out to get the next gen camera support. It's all about forced upgrade paths and money. You can't force loyalty for long. I moved to Asia after I retired. And I hate to say this but if you go into a computer shop here and want windows 7, CS5 or whatever is is 10 dollars.
They hack everything. It must be costing the software giants billions of dollars. I had a glitch in my laptop the other day and wanted windows reloaded. When I got it back it had CS5, windows 7 and several other programs added just for bringing it in. I asked the software guy what was up.
He said and I quote. The Americans make the best software and we haven't paid for any yet. I kinda see where PS is coming from. But I think they need to fix there software where it is safe from hackers. Then it would be cheaper to all. Would it?
Just like that. Do you believe they would pass on what they save to us? Or would they just pocket the profit? How do you mean? I guess someone re-translates every single menu-item with every new version of PS I hear you Danny. The main reason I've upgraded from version to version is for the raw converter. I was fairly happy with CS3 but of course it wouldn't support newer Canon cameras I had at the time and then I've gone to CS5 cause of the improved raw converter.
I'm getting to the point that I'm going to be looking for another program to convert my raws and then stick with CS5 for further processing as the trend is likely to continue that if and when 5DIII, 7KII comes out it may or may not be supported by CS5 and I wouldn't be surprised if I'll need CS6. True and I have tried it in the past when waiting for the release of CS4 to become more stable boy was it buggy at first at least in my opinion.
In any case, I would have missed out on the improved raw conversion in CS5 if I'd stopped at 4. I think Adobe would be getting slightly less flack over this upgrade policy if new versions would have significant improvements one to the other such as 4 to 5's raw conversion. I believe I see 'Puppet Warp', a bit of interface redesign more anoying in my opinion , for the rest I just do the same stuff with Photoshop as I did 10 years ago.
CMYK is there, the layers, the brushes, the masks. Hey, where is all the new inventive stuff that made it worth the money spend? No wonder no one wants to upgrade, what's the point??? It's easy to jump on the upgrade bandwagon, but for me, Content Aware fill would be nice I'm on CS4 and can't afford it right now.
I had Ps4. Was waiting for the PS6 upgrade to come. Then Adobe advised their new policy of upgrading. Giving time untill end for upgrading to PS5 in order to upgrade later to PS6. I purchased the usleless upgrade toward end Nov Installed it only yesterday 12 Jan Now Jan they advised prologation of update from PS3, PS4 untill end of , after me and many others already purchased the PS5 update?
I'm in the same boat. I upgraded from CS4 to CS5. Now they change their policy so that I could've waited for 6 and upgraded.
I just chatted with an Adobe support person and asked them if I could downgrade to CS4 and upgrade to 6 when it was released, and they said they would get back to me. I feel like I was blackmailed by Adobe to buy an upgrade that they then turned around and changed there policy, and now I will pay substancially more than I would've. Thanks asloc for your reply.
Please advise results of your conversation with Adobe. It is of interest for many of us,Adobe customers. I too bought the update, something I felt I could barely afford to do at christmas time, but I also felt I had no real option. In hindsight, the furore was inevitable, and the more I think about it, the more I suspect Adobe knew this in the first place.
I believe they thought they could scare enough people into upgrading to add to their tasty profits, then backtrack and thought they would come up smelling of roses. Well, they don't. To me they smell of the stuff that gets put on the roses. I won't forget this, and I really shouldn't be alone in that.
I'm fuming mad at Adobe due to their recent policy announcement. Yes, I upgraded the last week of Dec from CS4 for the same reason as everyone else. This "about face" from Adobe reinforces my decision to stop purchasing Adobe products. My purchase of CS 5. I refuse to support Adobe by being swindled and defrauded into purchasing every iteration of their software.
I just bought the NIK suit as well, and I'll continue to find other software to replace the Adobe titles that I previously purchased Lightroom, etc. I'll get all the use I can out of CS5. I'm sure Adobe thinks they have us over a barrel, and they can extort more money from us at will, however, I think I can live without them. But it seems the offer doesn't apply to individual products:- Elements works just as well in conjunction with Lightroom And I see Corel are producing a good competitive product.
The reign of Photoshop is drawing to a close. Power of the masses! Adobe lost! It was an overwhelming protest. Everyone wins - sheesh, let people make mistakes and then have the decency to accept it when they present their corrections.
Adobe has crossed a line in customer relations that shouldn'd be crossed. This new 'special offer' is a slight backtrack, but even after the public outcry they play hardball.
They are going to lose customers, that's for shure. I am one of them. I'm pretty sure Adobe could just make more money by requiring a dongle or "ignition key" to use its software, preventing piracy, rather than bilking people who are essentially donating them money for software they could pirate for free if they wanted. I think that Adobe's new policy is bound to cost them customers.
When you don't give previous customers some type of break when they are trying to upgrade the software product they bought from you previously, I think that you are asking for trouble; particulary given the high cost of CS5 and LR3.
I personally hope that they get a lot of competition in response to this move and it ends up costing them. They may be the big dog now but ask Kodak how that works! Your prices are too HIGH! That's why there is so much piracy! I'll bet even in this country. You would not only keep many customers from jumping ship, but also rain in a bunch of people using pirated copies!
Most people don't want the Cloud! It's too controlling! I will never use any cloud programs. You would retain many customers, and upgrades! You could most likely drop Elements. Get Smart! Also, If you really want people to upgrade, Do something about the features you would offer, make them substantial, and cutting edge. I think the interface is so archaic, make it very intuitive to logic.
If you say we can't because of overhead and cost then it's time to slim down your companys OH, Times have changed, People are looking at spending there money a whole lot differently, today, and your not going to see a change back to the old way of spending unless our government makes some radical changes.
Well l now that Corel has Aftershot. If in the future they natively port it's other Windows only apps to Linux and Mac. Then enthusiasts, and professionals on a budget, will have a new line of apps to use. And a choice of platform. So far Aftershot is making news in the Linux blogs.
And some have already bought the download. There is hope!. And don't believe all that Scott Kelby tells you. Subscription based apps is NOT the future.
Maybe for him, who makes money thanks to Adobe products. Send Corel an email and thank them!. Walter Biscardi, Jr. Blog Twitter Facebook. Tweets by walterbiscardi.
Not one of the current crop of NLEs is perfect, however the complete Adobe suite of apps offers terrific value that supersedes all others in terms of the vast toolset offered for the price. I was skeptical as well, but no more. The regular updates and access to the entire Adobe Suite you get is absolutely unparalleled.
I effing love it. The people who are holding out on CS6 are kidding themselves. They get a regular infusion of dollars that can support a development team that is devoted to literally doing one thing: supporting and improving that software. The users get faster iterations on the software, and constant bug fixes, updates, and improvements. That being said, the current version of PPro is much, much better and more feature filled than CS 6 so if you want to take PPro for a test run you are doing yourself a disservice by going with CS 6, IMO.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Upgrade from CS5 to CS6? PegoMan Well-Known Member. Messages Likes That, on a monthly basis, does not interest me at all. Also have there ever been upgrades of Photoshop from one version to another? I know that some software will give you a break on a newer version since you have already purchased the first at full price.
Yeah, I know, these are probably pretty dumb questions considering the way the industry is going, but no harm in checking! Thanks much, John P. I am not a student or teacher, just a retired old guy who enjoys photography and PS. MikeMc McGuru. Messages 1, Likes 1, I use CS5 extended also. I have no need to upgrade to CS6 as I do little if any 3D. Only advantage I'm aware of.
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